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Santorum tells Iowans: 'I don't want to make black people's lives better' | The Raw Story

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Speaking to Republicans in Iowa on Monday, former Senator Rick Santorum (R-PA) said his administration would reform welfare to the point that it would offer no welfare at all.

After suggesting that an expansion of Medicare is really just a plot to make voters more dependent on Washington, Santorum added: ”I don’t want to make black people’s lives better by giving them other people’s money.”

 

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T-800

Despite the factually flawed nature of Santorum’s pitch on Monday, the underlying logic of his pitch is abundantly clear: census data shows that over 91 percent of Iowans are white, a community Santorum must desperately appeal to if he wants a win in Tuesday’s caucuses.

COH please.

  • 43 votes
#1 - Mon Jan 2, 2012 6:54 PM EST
Vlad's dog

Rick should be placed on the political welfare rolls, let his followers pay for his stupidity not the rest of us.

  • 56 votes
#1.1 - Mon Jan 2, 2012 7:05 PM EST
Arieus

The man is a bigoted racist like all the others we have had before Obama, and yet people still vote for him.

As long as we have people like this sitting in any political seat, we will always have racism and bigotry in America.

Do you really think that Bachmann, Romney, or Santorum have the black people's best interests at heart? Hell no! They all come from the Texan racist society of he Bush Klan.

  • 49 votes
#1.2 - Mon Jan 2, 2012 7:24 PM EST
T-800

Do you really think that Bachmann, Romney, or Santorum have the black people's best interests at heart?

Only if they're in the top 1 or 2 percentile.

  • 36 votes
#1.3 - Mon Jan 2, 2012 7:28 PM EST
Radio Free America

Already seeded. Here are my comments.

http://enwr77.newsvine.com/_news/2012/01/02/9901175-santorum-targets-blacks-in-entitlement-reform-political-hotsheet-cbs-news

  • 14 votes
#1.4 - Mon Jan 2, 2012 7:40 PM EST
T-800

Already seeded. Here are my comments.

Same story, different article. This is from Raw Story, not CBS. Happens all the time on Newsvine. If it was from the same source, I would delete it. Also seeded here, from another source.

http://easyjjgrand3.newsvine.com/_news/2012/01/02/9901191-rick-santorum-says-hes-not-interested-in-helping-african-americans-video-addicting-info

  • 17 votes
#1.5 - Mon Jan 2, 2012 8:05 PM EST
Radio Free America

Agreed. Just get a little upset as to how articles are placed on the home page. Not your fault.

Glad it did finally make it to the Top News page. It is a very important event. It is a continuation of the GOP's stereotyping of minorities. I equate it with the pimp attire worn to ACORN.

  • 25 votes
#1.6 - Mon Jan 2, 2012 8:10 PM EST
T-800

No problem RFA.

  • 13 votes
#1.7 - Mon Jan 2, 2012 8:15 PM EST
Rixar13

Santorum tells Iowans: ‘I don’t want to make black people’s lives better’

An honest Bigot?

  • 28 votes
#1.8 - Mon Jan 2, 2012 8:21 PM EST
Davy-755715

Once again, I'm not a Republican and would never vote for Santorum. But he did make a valid point about taking statements out of context. Did the previous question in the series have any references to black people? If so, his statement couldn't automatically be assumed racism. If the previous question didn't,...

  • 6 votes
#1.9 - Mon Jan 2, 2012 8:21 PM EST
Radio Free America

Davy He is being judge on his response and not the question. His reponse is what is racist no matter the question or previous comment.

  • 21 votes
#1.10 - Mon Jan 2, 2012 9:02 PM EST
T-800

Did the previous question in the series have any references to black people?

I'm hard pressed to imagine any question that would elicit that response, no matter if it did have references to African Americans, or not.

  • 26 votes
#1.11 - Mon Jan 2, 2012 9:11 PM EST
TheyreAllCrooks

I seeded a post that's running right now...here's what prompted Santorum's racist stupidity.

Answering a question about foreign influence on the U.S. economy, the former Pennsylvania senator went on to discuss the American entitlement system - which he argued is being used to politically exploit its beneficiaries.

"It just keeps expanding - I was in Indianola a few months ago and I was talking to someone who works in the department of public welfare here, and she told me that the state of Iowa is going to get fined if they don't sign up more people under the Medicaid program," Santorum said. "They're just pushing harder and harder to get more and more of you dependent upon them so they can get your vote. That's what the bottom line is."

He added: "I don't want to make black people's lives better by giving them somebody else's money; I want to give them the opportunity to go out and earn the money."
"Right," responded one audience member, as another woman can be seen nodding.


http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-57350990-503544/santorum-targets-blacks-in-entitlement-reform/

  • 15 votes
#1.12 - Mon Jan 2, 2012 9:19 PM EST
Davy-755715

You may well be right, but I still believe that "taken out of context" may be an accurate issue sometimes.

  • 4 votes
#1.13 - Mon Jan 2, 2012 9:20 PM EST
T-800

Thanks for providing some context TAC.

You may well be right, but I still believe that "taken out of context" may be an accurate issue in some cases.

And you are right Davy, but not in this case.

  • 22 votes
#1.14 - Mon Jan 2, 2012 9:22 PM EST
TheyreAllCrooks

He wasn't taken out of context...

There was absolutely no discussion of race...Santorum threw that in for no logical reason I can think of other than to pander to race baiters.

Are there no whites on Iowa's welfare rolls? White folk don't get food stamps? If you listen to Rick Santorum the answer is obviously - NO!

  • 30 votes
#1.15 - Mon Jan 2, 2012 9:27 PM EST
Plantsmantx

Even if the question he was asked had referenced black people, he could have reminded the person who asked it that most people on "welfare" aren't black. However, according to the CBS News article linked to in the other seed on this subject, he was asked a question about "foreign influence on the U.S. economy", and for some reason, that prompted him to talk about welfare.

It is unclear why Santorum pinpointed blacks specifically as recipients of federal aid. The original questioner asked "how do we get off this crazy train? We've got so much foreign influence in this country now," adding "where do we go from here?"

Interesting.

Not only that, but before he talked about black people, he said something about an Iowa state official telling him that the state faces being fined for not signing up enough people for Medicaid. Again, for some reason, that prompted him to talk about black people in particular, even though there aren't very many black people in Iowa.

On top of all that, there's this:

"I've seen that quote, I haven't seen the context in which that was made," Santorum told Pelley, of the Sunday remarks. "Yesterday I talked for example about a movie called, um, what was it? 'Waiting for Superman,' which was about black children and so I don't know whether it was in response and I was talking about that."

What? It was his own quote, and he made it the previous day. And he forgot "the context"? Come on.

  • 27 votes
#1.16 - Mon Jan 2, 2012 9:36 PM EST
TheyreAllCrooks

However, according to the CBS News article linked to in the other seed on this subject, he was asked a question about "foreign influence on the U.S. economy", and for some reason, that prompted him to talk about welfare.

Exactly, I seeded the other article after hearing about this craziness!
My hunch is he's not talking to Iowa voters...he's talking to South Carolina voters!

  • 19 votes
#1.17 - Mon Jan 2, 2012 9:41 PM EST
Carol-99

Yesterday I talked for example about a movie called, um, what was it? 'Waiting for Superman,' which was about black children and so I don't know whether it was in response and I was talking about that."

I didn't see Waiting for Superman, but weren't there some white kids in the movie? Also, wasn't the movie about the educational system as a whole, not just for black children?

  • 12 votes
#1.18 - Mon Jan 2, 2012 9:47 PM EST
Buckeye Voter

COH please.

It's hard to maintain the COH when discussing a racist.

  • 21 votes
#1.19 - Mon Jan 2, 2012 9:50 PM EST
Tappy McWidestance

Of course Rick doesn't point out that the majority of welfare recipients are white.

  • 22 votes
#1.20 - Mon Jan 2, 2012 10:04 PM EST
TheyreAllCrooks

There's a pretty good chance several of the white people he was addressing are on welfare. In Iowa 84% of welfare recipients are WHITE! 9% are black.

  • 22 votes
#1.21 - Mon Jan 2, 2012 10:12 PM EST
skeptic-227981

TAC, good point. And the welfare demographics align closely with general population demographics.

Your point above when you quoted the person from Indianola about Medicaid is an important one. This state has what it calls "Iowa Cares" for those with low or no income and who don't qualify for Medicaid. That program was overlaid over Iowa's old "indigent" program where vouchers were issued to the poor. It was patched together in 2005 because Iowa was about to lose billions in Medicaid funding because the state was out of compliance with some federal regulations. Under Iowa Care, until just last year, anyone on that program had to go to the U of I teaching hospital at the southeast corner of the state. No other providers in the state at all. In 2010, the legislature opened up a few hospitals in a few counties. All others still have to travel clear across the state to see a doctor.

The health care for the poor and low income here, from what I've seen, is wretched. The only decent care I have received so far is that from the university system when I was a student (not U of I). Everything else has been fraught with goof-ups, miscommunication, etc., and that includes regular care outside the university circle. I've also seen some bad care given to others with regular insurance. One time, when I was eligible for Medicaid, the first caseworker told me I wasn't. Turns out she was absolutely wrong.

I've lived in seven states and had all kinds of insurance. I've never seen anything like this anywhere. And when someone cannot get regular insurance, that person should be able to access Medicaid. I disagree with the person from Indianola. This isn't about the government making people dependent. It's about the wage and labor structure, the insurance companies, and rising costs working against American workers and citizens so that maintaining their own health becomes a luxury instead of the necessity that it really is. It's the new status symbol: being able to see a competent doctor when you need to.

***********

Calling for the abolishment of government programs that help the poor eat, access shelter, and health care, is nothing short of a spiritual form of murder. That's what Santorum, as a so-called professing Christian is calling for.

  • 21 votes
#1.22 - Mon Jan 2, 2012 10:34 PM EST
TheyreAllCrooks

Of course last week he said this about the president: "I find it almost remarkable for a black man to say, 'No, we are gonna decide who are people and who are not people.'"

And once again...the topic was NOT about race...just sayin...there's a nasty pattern here.


http://mediamatters.org/mobile/blog/201101200024

  • 21 votes
#1.23 - Mon Jan 2, 2012 10:45 PM EST
dwillie

Sadly, the people in the audience are either too stupid to realize that Santorum is treating them like Pavlov's proverbial dog, or they are indeed racist and actually welcome Santorum bringing up race in answering a question that had nothing to do with race.

  • 22 votes
#1.24 - Mon Jan 2, 2012 11:15 PM EST
skeptic-227981

Some other points.

One. As a Bible-believing Christian, he has to consider the laws, rules, and edicts about gleaning and tithing. Those with crops were instructed to leave the corners of their fields unharvested so the poor could glean. This is so important, it is included in the Book of Ruth. She met Boaz while gleaning in his field. They got married. She, a Moabitess, was grafted into the ancestor line of Jesus. The point about gleaning is, those who have are expected to automatically divide some off for those less fortunate. It was the Biblical form of safety net program. So he and the other so-called religious adherents need to take stock of what they are saying and advocating. Their stands, it turns out, are against the very teachings they espouse.

Two. All the GOP/TP candidates have expressed extreme desire in repealing health care reform. That's really because Obama got it done, but they claim it's because it's a government program, and an expansion at that. However, not one of them has ever declined government health care for themselves and their families when in other elected offices that I know of.

Note Santorum's remarks here:

As a Senator, Rick Santorum supported the Medicare Prescription Drug benefit known as Medicare Part D. He voted for the plan and ran television commercials noting that support. In the 2012 election, Senator Santorum was critical of that program. He stated that it was not funded properly as it simply spends whatever seniors need. He stated that his vote for that program was a mistake, but that he voted in favor of the reform because of other portions of the program, and that no other option was on the table. He claimed in a debate that the overall reform program had come in 40% under budget.

Senator Santorum has supported the plan proposed by Congressman Paul Ryan to transition Medicare to a voucher system to allow seniors to purchase health care on the open market. He has stated that this proposed plan is identical to Medicare Advantage, where seniors get resources from the federal government and then go out and make choices on what to purchase.

Senator Santorum opposed the 2009-2010 health care reform plan known as Obamacare and supports it's repeal. He stated that under the plan, Medicare would be cut starting in 2014 and the government would be rationing of care from the top down.

http://www.thepoliticalguide.com/Profiles/Senate/Pennsylvania/Rick_Santorum/Views/Health_Care/

Three. I seeded an article last Friday, the implications of which are very disturbing.

Of the non-Medicaid patients, fewer than one in 10 died within five years of their cancer diagnosis.

By comparison, more than one in five Medicaid patients died during that period, and those who enrolled in Medicaid later survived the shortest time.

http://changeaddress2004.newsvine.com/_news/2011/12/31/9843304-ohio-medicaid-cancer-patients-survive-less-time

Mr. Santorum's stand is unconscionable.

  • 13 votes
#1.25 - Mon Jan 2, 2012 11:25 PM EST
TPisFORtheBATHROOM101

Wellll,the secret's out now ricky. /s/s/s

Is it just me,or are many bad current politicians named rick,rick,dick etc. Must be a 'hate your mom' vengeance thing. /s/s/s poll?

They are uniquely,yet collectively insane IMO.

  • 8 votes
#1.26 - Tue Jan 3, 2012 1:24 AM EST
Roy-933464

Sadly, Santorum is merely speaking on an underlying theme of conservative politics. You put a black face on an emotional topic that will appeal to your base. Heck, we're talking about the same people who actually believe that the toxic loans and mortgage backed securities bubble wasn't an engineered predatory game of musical chairs, but an act of goodwill to give away houses and money until black folks came along and ruined everything.

  • 19 votes
#1.27 - Tue Jan 3, 2012 6:12 AM EST
Simplistic Reality

Even if the question he was asked had referenced black people, he could have reminded the person who asked it that most people on "welfare" aren't black.

Well lets see....

With regard to AFDC the figures are:
White 38.8%
Black 39.8
Hispanic 15.7
Asian 2.4
other 3.3
To break down these numbers, we look at how many Whites are in the population as a WHOLE. If Blacks make up less 14% of the population and are almost 40% of all recipients, then they represent about 2.5 times their actual population. Since Whites are over 50% of the total US pop., they represent less than their overall piece of the pie, population-wise. Hispanics are at least 15% of the general population, so they take only about as much as what their population represents. I read so many on here claiming that more Whites are on welfare than Blacks (true, in terms of raw numbers), yet not accounting for the fact that there are over 4X as many Whites in this country than Blacks. So Santorum even if it was very uncouth of him to use Blacks as example... for being the highest minority and group in this nation to be on welfare... wasn't lying I guess to be fair. Although he should of just said "welfare recipients" instead of singling out a group. *shrugs*

  • 6 votes
#1.28 - Tue Jan 3, 2012 6:28 AM EST
George-369262

We need to severely cut back on social programs, which we just can't afford. Regardless of the color of the recipients. And how is Santorum's comments any more racist than those of the Obama Administration freely admitting that they have little interest in white working-class voters, as reported in the NYT ? It is about demographics, and voting blocks, not racism.

You (and Rick) do know that the majority of people on welfare are white, right?

No, I didn't, but it is irrelevant. We are talking about the entitlement mentality.

  • 3 votes
#1.29 - Tue Jan 3, 2012 6:29 AM EST
TheyreAllCrooks

@Simplistic Reality
You do realize the unemployment rate for blacks is at least 30% or maybe even higher?

  • 12 votes
#1.30 - Tue Jan 3, 2012 6:46 AM EST
TheyreAllCrooks

And how is Santorum's comments any more racist than those of the Obama Administration freely admitting that they have little interest in white working-class voters, as reported in the NYT ?

Link please...

  • 14 votes
#1.31 - Tue Jan 3, 2012 6:47 AM EST
Z1P2

This can't be news to anyone. What would be news is if any GOP candidate said that they wanted to improve the lives of any Americans other than themselves.

  • 5 votes
#1.32 - Tue Jan 3, 2012 7:16 AM EST
Al-2739446

Oh, what a clear example of Obama playing racial politics.

  • 1 vote
#1.33 - Tue Jan 3, 2012 7:28 AM EST
Jonathan-1917156

George,

yes, you are right, we really need to cut back on social programs we can't afford. My first social program on the cutting block is the 500 million dollars a year that the federal government spends keeping the Hamptons from washing away into the atlantic ocean. Yes, if the millionaires and billionaires that have vacation estates on that part of long island want to keep their palatial estates, they should pay for it themselves.

AI

How is that Obama playing racial politics? It was Rick Santorum that said it. Obama has NOTHING to do with the stupidity of the republican candidates, that is their own bloody fault.

  • 12 votes
#1.34 - Tue Jan 3, 2012 8:38 AM EST
Plantsmantx

Although he should of just said "welfare recipients" instead of singling out a group. *shrugs*

Yes, he could have. Or, given that he was actually asked a question about foreign influence on the American economy, he could have, and logically should have, not even mentioned welfare at all, let alone welfare and black people. I guess he thinks black people are a foreign influence.

  • 10 votes
#1.35 - Tue Jan 3, 2012 9:46 AM EST
TheyreAllCrooks

So Santorum even if it was very uncouth of him to use Blacks as example... for being the highest minority and group in this nation to be on welfare... wasn't lying I guess to be fair.

Nobody accused him of lying.
Azzhole? Yes! Bigot? Yes!

There is no concievable reason for him to single out blacks on welfare in Iowa when 84% of the recipients on welfare in Iowa are white - 9% are blacks.

Secondly, nobody asked him about welfare or black people...he just randomly threw this BS on the table.

And while blacks do comprise 40% of the people on welfare - you might also be aware that black unemployment is near 30% while for whites it's less than 8%

  • 12 votes
#1.36 - Tue Jan 3, 2012 10:24 AM EST
real michaud

no wonder when you google "santorum" u just wanna puke? right? :)

  • 5 votes
#1.37 - Tue Jan 3, 2012 11:10 AM EST
800 lb. gorilla

so apparently, rick santorum is a bigot. Will this hurt him, or help him in the early primaries?

  • 6 votes
#1.38 - Tue Jan 3, 2012 1:59 PM EST
Plantsmantx

I think it will help more than hurt.

  • 8 votes
#1.39 - Tue Jan 3, 2012 2:06 PM EST
maria lyn

I would say the answer to that is a definite yes when has being a known bigot been good for any candidate? He and several other of the racist bigots of the radical right/should be forced to live with the people theylook down to/because they think they are so much better then others. Well i would like to tell you snobbish Repubs: Your sh$+ stinks just like theirs and mine. I rest my case.

  • 6 votes
#1.40 - Tue Jan 3, 2012 2:10 PM EST
chucky1169469

TheyreAllCrooks

There's a pretty good chance several of the white people he was addressing are on welfare. In Iowa 84% of welfare recipients are WHITE! 9% are black.

I'm pretty sure Rick knew what he was talking about, what he is saying welfare was a program meant for white people only. you know....not one black person in this country works....so they should have to get help from another source. s/

  • 4 votes
#1.41 - Tue Jan 3, 2012 2:36 PM EST
cannonballer

The left doesn't want to make their lives any better either, just let em stay on welfare and be dependant.

  • 1 vote
#1.42 - Tue Jan 3, 2012 3:01 PM EST
Roy-933464

The left doesn't want to make their lives any better either, just let em stay on welfare and be dependant.

A bit of an overgeneralization...don't you think? We need to eliminate extremists from both sides, because any solution towards the middle to reform welfare regardless of race will require comprehensive reform and people on both sides willing to give up some sacred ground. I'm pretty sure that there are a lot who

  • 5 votes
#1.43 - Tue Jan 3, 2012 4:18 PM EST
Roy-933464

I'm pretty sure that there are a lot who dig their heels in based simply on the nature of partisan politics. Compromise is a dirty word and opportunity to capitalize politically. Just ask Boehner, who said "dealing with this President is like dealing with jello", upon being asked why he kept reneging on good faith agreements regarding the debt ceiling.

  • 2 votes
#1.44 - Tue Jan 3, 2012 4:28 PM EST
dwillie

Anyone who thinks that I, as a black man, am somehow dependent on anyone can kiss my ENTIRE a$$.

Every inch of it.

Starting with whichever cheek they wish.

Perhaps some simply don't realize the high potential for broad-based insult that occurs whenever "they" or "them" is used, particularly in the context of an article in which the protagonist actually singles out black people broadly. Perhaps those who do it simply want to be viewed as racist or that they simply don't care. Whichever the reason, I guess such ignorant, intellectually bankrupt stereotyping really has no place among people who would consider themselves decent people.

Any republican whose brain operates with a requisite number of properly firing synapses should have been insulted by Santorum's blatantly cynical race-baiting. That some would not only embrace it but double-down on the stereotyping only confirms why so many black people view the republican party with a healthy sense of disdain.

  • 16 votes
#1.45 - Tue Jan 3, 2012 5:09 PM EST
Alex. CA

dwillie Excellent post!!!

  • 7 votes
#1.46 - Tue Jan 3, 2012 10:23 PM EST
Al-2739446

Jonathon-I was being facetious. Many of these republican right wing shills have accused Obama of racims at everyt turn, yet, it is they who continually raise the issue, and virtually always in a negative way towards blacks. Then, they wonder why there is virtually no support for republicans among blacks.

I was astounded to hear that J C Watts was endorsing Newt Gingrinch. I always thought that J C was one black republican who had his headon fairly straight.

  • 4 votes
#1.47 - Thu Jan 5, 2012 9:30 AM EST
Alex. CA

How can any black republican have his or her head fairly straight on?

  • 5 votes
#1.48 - Thu Jan 5, 2012 11:54 PM EST
Al-2739446

Alex- I believe that you are correct. The republicans have proven themselves to be a party that is dedicated to the supremacy of the whtie male. The more they speak, the more apparent it becomes. They support and accept blacks only who are willing to denigrate their own people. No other politician has to put his own race or nationality down to gain favor with a party other than blacks. What a lot of these black republicans do not understand is how they got where they are today. Absent government intervention they might still be picking cotton. How they cannot see this is beyond me. 80% of the time that blacks have resided in this country it has been legal on some level to discriminate against them. Think about that and how devestating it is to the development of a community. This isn't playing a mythical race card or whining, this is simply stating the truth.

Blacks voted republican before FDR because of Lincoln. The irony is that Lincoln never saw blacks as equal to whites, he simply wanted to preserve the Union and knew that the slavery issue would destroy it. The elevation of blacks to equal ststus with whites was never on the agenda of the Founding Fathers or the leaders of this country. This country was literally forced into it as they talked about freedom elsewhere in the world while denying their own black citizens the same. The fact that the civil rights movement was televised and peolple all over the world saw human beings, often children, being beaten, kicked,bombed and hosed. This country was forced to do the right thing.

Republicans harken back to a day when the states could make certain determinations which is comonly called "state's rights." Thinking blacks know what this means.

No, opposition isn't about blacks wanting more welfare payments, most don't receive them. No, it isn't about blacks wanting jobs for which they are not qualified, qualified blacks are everywhere. Blacks simply want equal treatment under the law and the right to pursue life, liberty and happiness. Think about it, the pursuit of those basic rights has resulted in all of this conflict. Yet, republicans are patriots who believein the Constitution. Really?????

  • 7 votes
#1.49 - Fri Jan 6, 2012 8:41 AM EST
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Brian-497171

Does he want to make white people's lives better by giving them money? I don't understand wtf he's is talking about.

  • 18 votes
Reply#2 - Mon Jan 2, 2012 8:20 PM EST
Clint-746036

Reading all of what he said would help you understand.

“I want to give them the opportunity to go out and earn their money and provide for themselves and their families,”

  • 5 votes
#2.1 - Mon Jan 2, 2012 9:13 PM EST
Clint-746036

Sorry.. double post

    #2.2 - Mon Jan 2, 2012 9:13 PM EST
    Brian-497171

    “I want to give them the opportunity to go out and earn their money and provide for themselves and their families,”

    You (and Rick) do know that the majority of people on welfare are white, right? That's not even including those on corporate welfare.

    • 18 votes
    #2.3 - Mon Jan 2, 2012 9:26 PM EST
    TheyreAllCrooks

    And why did he mention blacks when the question was about foreign policy NOT welfare? And why did not mention whites being on welfare?

    Nobody asked him about welfare...this was just pure racial stupidity.


    It is unclear why Santorum pinpointed blacks specifically as recipients of federal aid. The original questioner asked "how do we get off this crazy train? We've got so much foreign influence in this country now," adding "where do we go from here?"


    http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-57350990-503544/santorum-targets-blacks-in-entitlement-reform/

    • 20 votes
    #2.4 - Mon Jan 2, 2012 9:31 PM EST
    mountainmike-1199289

    How many billions if not trillions of dollars have been poured into the Mideast specifically for access to oil? But-but-but that's not welfare? Yes it is. Its taxpayer money or money from China taxpayers are held accountable for (the national debt).

    Santorum will NEVER talk about the massive corporate welfare we are engaged in.

    • 14 votes
    #2.5 - Mon Jan 2, 2012 10:53 PM EST
    real michaud

    good point guys on corporate welfare, I bet "don't you dare google 'santorum'" was one of the biggest corpowelfare state wannabe's in the Senate.

    • 6 votes
    #2.6 - Tue Jan 3, 2012 11:15 AM EST
    Al-2739446

    It is unclear why Santorum pinpointed blacks specifically as recipients of federal aid. The original questioner asked "how do we get off this crazy train? We've got so much foreign influence in this country now," adding "where do we go from here?"

    It isn't unclear. He is playing inot a racial stereotype that he and those like him want to believe. It is a part of the continual denigration of blacks that has occurred since this country began.

    It is a lie-period.

    • 4 votes
    #2.7 - Thu Jan 5, 2012 9:33 AM EST
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    Emmadadog

    Who is this man?

    Where did he come from?

    And how did he escape from his "white jacket"?

    Represhensibl, pathetically, hysterically, vile. I don't care what his daughter says, this man is the perfect example of man's inhumanity to man.

    I am sure Opus Dei is supremely proud of him.

    • 16 votes
    Reply#3 - Mon Jan 2, 2012 8:21 PM EST
    Ed-2160927

    He did not escape from a white jacket. His evening attire should be a white sheet with pointed hood.

    • 16 votes
    #3.1 - Mon Jan 2, 2012 9:27 PM EST
    mountainmike-1199289

    What would happen if his Jesus came back today and did what he did over 2,000 years ago and hang out with the elderly, the children, the sick, the poor, the disabled, and the minorities?

    • 11 votes
    #3.2 - Mon Jan 2, 2012 10:56 PM EST
    T-800

    What would happen if his Jesus came back today and did what he did over 2,000 years ago and hang out with the elderly, the children, the sick, the poor, the disabled, and the minorities?

    The teapubs would probably call Him a Marxist/Socialist.

    • 10 votes
    #3.3 - Mon Jan 2, 2012 11:08 PM EST
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    Steven of Coulterville

    Odd fellow, Santorum. I wonder what idiotic statements he'll make in front of a predominantly black audience.

    • 20 votes
    Reply#4 - Mon Jan 2, 2012 8:26 PM EST
    TheyreAllCrooks

    Any crowded room in Iowa with 5 or fewer blacks IS predominantly black to Rick Santorum!

    • 16 votes
    #4.1 - Mon Jan 2, 2012 9:55 PM EST
    SpoxLogic

    Any crowded room in Iowa with 5 or fewer blacks IS predominantly black to Rick Santorum!

    OUCH!! ...true...but still an ouchy.

    • 12 votes
    #4.2 - Mon Jan 2, 2012 10:53 PM EST
    mountainmike-1199289

    Republicans should regard Santorum as Mr.Ouchy. How embarrassing to have this nutcase running for president?

    • 13 votes
    #4.3 - Mon Jan 2, 2012 10:57 PM EST
    Kevin-458252

    TAC,

    That's cold, man!!!

    ROFLMFMBAO!!!!!!!

    A person "THAT" ice cold earns an FR from me!!!

    • 7 votes
    #4.4 - Tue Jan 3, 2012 3:48 AM EST
    TheyreAllCrooks

    RF accepted...it is what it is. Santorum is a fullblown asshat!

    • 10 votes
    #4.5 - Tue Jan 3, 2012 6:11 AM EST
    notsojingo

    Long overdue FR Sent, TAC!

    • 2 votes
    #4.6 - Tue Jan 3, 2012 5:45 PM EST
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    DS12

    It looks like he just gave his opponents an easy campaign add when he gets to SC, NC,GA, etc etc and it would be an easy assumption that it applies to minorities not to blacks only.

    • 9 votes
    Reply#5 - Mon Jan 2, 2012 8:53 PM EST
    ScienceGuy-356641

    Curious that Santorum took a discussion about Medicare, Medicaid, etc. and chose to make it a racial issue.

    Conservatives indignantly accuse progressives of attempting to create "class warfare", and yet they don't bat an eye when one of their leading candidates strives to stir up "race warfare".

    • 21 votes
    Reply#6 - Mon Jan 2, 2012 8:59 PM EST
    mike the vet

    I would assume it comes from some deep seated insecurity

    • 8 votes
    #6.1 - Mon Jan 2, 2012 9:21 PM EST
    Ted 050247

    Like his gay bashing? His obsession with Gays/lesbians 24/7? His obsession with abortion? His wanting to cut benefits to the old and the poor and give everything to big money? He hates welfare for the poor but will fight to give welfare to corporations?

    I live in Pa. The only reason Sick Rick wants to get into office is to force his puritan agenda on everyone, and take this country back 200 yrs to what he thinks it should be.

    He has ABSOLUTELY no interest in working for ALL the people, just the people that have the same hateful, rigid ideology that he does.

    This is one sick person, and once PA saw that he was only worried about pushing his compulsive, obesssive agenda, he was kicked to the curb in double digit numbers.

    He can wrap himslef in a flag and thump his bible till the cows come home--but in reality he is an evil, vicious, hateful person that would like to see a chrisitan version of Sharia law in this country.

    And that's the best I can say about him.

    • 13 votes
    #6.2 - Mon Jan 2, 2012 10:25 PM EST
    MaryEllen Galloway

    #6.:Curious that Santorum took a discussion about Medicare, Medicaid, etc. and chose to make it a racial issue.

    That was my issue as well. What did the discussion of Medicaid have to do with "RACE"?

    I suppose this idiot , santorum, has to turn everything into a race issue because he has the Obama Derangement Syndrome real bad! He is a helpless, witless racist moron who is a pitiful excuse for a human.

    He should be put away for good some place where he can not endanger anyone.

    • 12 votes
    #6.3 - Mon Jan 2, 2012 10:38 PM EST
    MaryEllen Galloway

    #6.2:And that's the best I can say about him.

    And you told the truth about this bastard, Ted! I am so happy that you guys saw through this idiot and got rid of him before he could do any more damage. Now, hopefully others will see this racist scum for what he is - and block him from getting any seat of power anywhere, at anytime.

    (Continued Happy Holidays friend!)

    • 9 votes
    #6.4 - Mon Jan 2, 2012 10:42 PM EST
    mountainmike-1199289

    Santorum does not want to talk about Medicare and Social Security, which he would abolish. So he diverts to racial cheap shots. Someone needs to shut down his diversions and demand answers on the major issues. If he can't answer, turn the microphone off and shut off the lights.

    • 13 votes
    #6.5 - Mon Jan 2, 2012 10:59 PM EST
    Radio Free America

    mountainmike-1199289

    Santorum does not want to talk about Medicare and Social Security, which he would abolish. So he diverts to racial cheap shots.

    The GOP knows that if they make social programs about race their followers will go along with abolishing them. It worked with union busting. Less expensive workforce (minorities) took the jobs of union workers. They were portrayed as lazy and not wanting to work.

    • 10 votes
    #6.6 - Mon Jan 2, 2012 11:07 PM EST
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    Jonathan-1917156

    And his daughter wonders why Santorum has a 'google' problem. Is cluelessness genetic?

    • 13 votes
    Reply#7 - Mon Jan 2, 2012 9:38 PM EST
    dwillie

    ...and republicans have the nerve to resent that blacks tender 90% of their votes to democrats.

    • 17 votes
    Reply#8 - Mon Jan 2, 2012 9:50 PM EST
    TheyreAllCrooks

    84% of the people in Iowa who are on food stamps are white. 9% are black. Which makes Santorum's commnets even more riduculous.

    • 13 votes
    Reply#9 - Mon Jan 2, 2012 10:00 PM EST
    ww-2194637

    He speaks of what he knows. In Western PA SSI/disability and food stamps as well as rampant drug abuse are a way of life for many whites, and racism is the norm.

    • 12 votes
    Reply#10 - Mon Jan 2, 2012 10:12 PM EST
    TheyreAllCrooks

    If he's spewing this kind of racist crap in Iowa, he's really gonna go beserk when he gets to South Carolina!

    • 12 votes
    #10.1 - Mon Jan 2, 2012 10:19 PM EST
    ww-2194637

    They all will.

    The sad part is they have a willing audience and the silent support of millions. Until America deals with this sickness it will never be the great country it proclaims to be.

    • 8 votes
    #10.2 - Mon Jan 2, 2012 10:29 PM EST
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    BLOGER-486140

    Adding Black and Welfare will endear him the Right Wing Republicans.

    • 11 votes
    Reply#11 - Mon Jan 2, 2012 10:18 PM EST
    T-800

    Adding Black and Welfare will endear him the Right Wing Republicans

    Just like blowing a dog whistle.

    • 11 votes
    Reply#12 - Mon Jan 2, 2012 10:20 PM EST
    Tin Roof Cat

    They put the dog whistles away..

    It's all trumpets from hear on out..

    • 3 votes
    #12.1 - Tue Jan 3, 2012 4:49 PM EST
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    Randy McMurphy

    This is the fvcking southern strategy, minus the clever dog whistle terms to hide the overt racism . Didn't anyone clue Frothy Santorum that it only works when you use coded speak that resonates with white bigots..."inner city", "forced busing" ...Here is a clue from the master;

    You start out in 1954 by saying, "N*gger, n*gger, n*gger." By 1968 you can't say "n*gger"—that hurts you. Backfires. So you say stuff like forced busing, states' rights and all that stuff. You're getting so abstract now [that] you're talking about cutting taxes, and all these things you're talking about are totally economic things and a byproduct of them is [that] blacks get hurt worse than whites.
    And subconsciously maybe that is part of it. I'm not saying that. But I'm saying that if it is getting that abstract, and that coded, that we are doing away with the racial problem one way or the other. You follow me—because obviously sitting around saying, "We want to cut this," is much more abstract than even the busing thing, and a hell of a lot more abstract than "N*gger, n*gger"

    Lee Atwater, republican scumbag before he became a born again human on his deathbed

    • 16 votes
    Reply#13 - Mon Jan 2, 2012 10:40 PM EST
    Brian-497171

    And Rick accuses Obama of dividing people?

    This whole field of GOP candidates aren't worth sh&t.

    • 13 votes
    Reply#14 - Mon Jan 2, 2012 10:44 PM EST
    MaryEllen Galloway

    #14:This whole field of GOP candidates aren't worth sh&t.

    You're absolutely correct friend! I don't even waste my time viewing any of their effing conferences or confabs, or whatever they choose to call them.

    I'll refer to them as money -making opportunities/book selling chances- because they know they can't win anything, let alone a Presidential election!

    I usually watch MSNBC, but they are following these "repub conferences" so I don't look at them either during this time. They are a waste of time and energy.

    Such a waste.

    • 12 votes
    #14.1 - Mon Jan 2, 2012 11:03 PM EST
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    blazera

    unless someone was asking him about how eliminating welfare would affect black communities, bringing race in this negative context is just pure racism.

    • 9 votes
    Reply#15 - Mon Jan 2, 2012 11:28 PM EST
    maywisdomprevail

    this man is the last rat on a sinking ship. He is throwing every ultra conservative policy around hoping enough might stick to enough people to give him a chance. These statements are so outlandish and offensive. He must be teetering on hysteria or insanity. Is he aware of anyone out here, or is his world all in his mind. I know he is acting out of "ignorance" in the big sense of the word. He really must not see the lack of compassion or harm he is exhibiting, his "not knowing of what he speaks". I hope no one follows his misguided lead.

    • 5 votes
    Reply#16 - Mon Jan 2, 2012 11:42 PM EST
    MaryEllen Galloway

    #16:These statements are so outlandish and offensive. He must be teetering on hysteria or insanity. Is he aware of anyone out here, or is his world all in his mind. I know he is acting out of "ignorance" in the big sense of the word.

    I am in agreement with you! What on earth could this person be thinking? HE sounds like someone from another planet! Really and truly astounding speech and behavior. Geez, he is dangerous.

    I am glad that I was able to read the comments that he made, otherwise I would never have known that he is such a racist nitwit. I would never consider voting for him in any sense, but I am so glad that I know how he reallly feels.

    • 8 votes
    #16.1 - Tue Jan 3, 2012 12:02 AM EST
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    Poorworkingman

    And this guy accused the President of appeasing Islamic world. My question is "Why do you appease Grover Norquist who has a lot to do with Islamic world? Or "Why do your party appease the Islamic appeaser?"

    • 6 votes
    Reply#17 - Mon Jan 2, 2012 11:53 PM EST
    Honor and Harmony

    Santorum tells Iowans: ‘I don’t want to make black people’s lives better’

    At least the demon admits he's evil. Now who's evil enough to vote for him???

    • 8 votes
    Reply#18 - Mon Jan 2, 2012 11:54 PM EST
    Jim watkins-441964

    His statement is blatantly racist and plays on the fears of the ignorant and prejudiced right wing and those predisposed to such stereotypng. Him, and people like him, are not interested in pulling the country together but only division and taking us backward.

    • 11 votes
    Reply#19 - Mon Jan 2, 2012 11:55 PM EST
    MaryEllen Galloway

    #19:Him, and people like him, are not interested in pulling the country together but only division and taking us backward

    Backward- further!

    • 9 votes
    #19.1 - Tue Jan 3, 2012 12:05 AM EST
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    John Franklin Mason

    Gee, about the majority of welfare recipicants who are White, what does Rick Santorum plan to do to them?

    Among the poorest of the poor--single mothers, living below thepoverty line with minor children to support 39.7 percent of AFDC clients are Black single mothers and 38.1 percent are White women with children. Food stamp recipients are 37.2 percent Black and 46.2 percent White. Medicaid benefits are paid to 27.5 percent Black recipients compared to 48.5 percent White clients.

    http://www.sodahead.com/united-states/who-collects-more-welfare-whites-or-blacks/question-1195103/

    • 7 votes
    Reply#20 - Tue Jan 3, 2012 12:17 AM EST
    Randy McMurphy

    I think Santorum is Vanilla blind.

    • 7 votes
    #20.1 - Tue Jan 3, 2012 12:34 AM EST
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    stueystu

    No one would expect him to 'make' black people's lives better. I think most sane people already know his feelings towards minorities even though he claims Christianity as his religion. Funny guy this one, but amazingly has ignoramuses supporting him and probably some posters on here.

    • 5 votes
    Reply#21 - Tue Jan 3, 2012 1:00 AM EST
    james-1932304

    Pandering to deep seated fears an hate...so let the imploding began, how strange it is that many conservative have no clue about real world issues even when it's right here at home. an some how we'r asked to continue to believe in thing that make no since. who are these people..?

    • 4 votes
    Reply#22 - Tue Jan 3, 2012 1:45 AM EST
    lifeisgood43

    Wow. I'm not surprise by this statement. Fox News has been blaming the black race for whatever is ailing America, whether it be jobs, housing, credit and etc. I heard Bill O'Reilly and Laura Graham say that it was the black race why the economy is bad. Remember that the slave owners would blame the black slave for being lazy after working in the field all day while the slave owners sat on their butts.

    Wow, Rick Santorum has said a couple racist statements in the last couple days.

    • 8 votes
    Reply#23 - Tue Jan 3, 2012 2:19 AM EST
    Kevin-458252

    And "THIS" is the party that freed the slaves?!?!? With crazy people like THIS saying the most ignorant, racist, and downright fear mongering @!$%# on the planet?!?!?!?!?

    MOTHER-@!$%#A, PLEASE!!!!!!!!!!!

    • 13 votes
    Reply#24 - Tue Jan 3, 2012 2:30 AM EST
    blazera

    the parties switched. The conservative south has always been the conservative south.

    • 11 votes
    #24.1 - Tue Jan 3, 2012 4:52 AM EST
    dwillie

    The founders of the republican party are spinning in their graves.

    • 12 votes
    #24.2 - Tue Jan 3, 2012 7:39 AM EST
    T-800

    And "THIS" is the party that freed the slaves?!?!?

    In name only.

    • 7 votes
    #24.3 - Tue Jan 3, 2012 10:57 AM EST
    easyjjgrand3

    T-800@1.5...Normally what I do to avoid re seeding is: When you click on "seed newsvine" there's a hesitation while it searches to see if it's been seeded. If it has I don't seed the article. But, there are times when it won't show then everyone's shorts get twisted, because they feel disrespected. And there are times when some say the hell with it I'm seeding this article too.

    There have been times when I've deleted hours later, because I found the same article In the heavy Print section on my seeded page.......If that makes sense to you.........More often than not it's mechanical error.

    • 2 votes
    #24.4 - Tue Jan 3, 2012 11:12 PM EST
    T-800

    No problem easy. I merely used your seed as an example of another article on the same subject, from a different source. Had no problem with you seeding it. I have a problem with people seeding articles that have already been put up, from the same source.

    And there are times when some say the hell with it I'm seeding this article too.

    I'm dealing with someone like that right now.

    There have been times when I've deleted hours later, because I found the same article In the heavy Print section on my seeded page.......If that makes sense to you.........More often than not it's mechanical error.

    I have also self deleted articles I seeded, when I found someone had seeded it earlier. I just figure it's the right thing to do.

    • 2 votes
    #24.5 - Tue Jan 3, 2012 11:40 PM EST
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    Marcel Villa

    This will hurt his political aspirations after Iowa. Sometimes you don't talk about what you are thinking. It is a dangerous act. He should count to ten before he ever speak in this manner again or he will never go beyond Iowa.

    • 8 votes
    Reply#25 - Tue Jan 3, 2012 2:42 AM EST
    maria lyn

    Rick Sannitation running for pres: what a disgusting pretense of a man.

    • 9 votes
    #25.1 - Tue Jan 3, 2012 5:48 AM EST
    maria lyn

    you can say that again!

    • 9 votes
    #25.2 - Tue Jan 3, 2012 8:56 AM EST
    TheyreAllCrooks

    Rick Sannitation running for pres: what a disgusting pretense of a man.

    • 6 votes
    #25.3 - Tue Jan 3, 2012 2:22 PM EST
    Truth be told-1349420

    My system can't take in any more of these Republican nonsenses. My bladder is filled to the neck and regurgitating into my Ureter. I need to go void. Palin, Bachmann, Cain, Gingrich, and Santorum have all contributed the most pathogenic toxic nonsenses to my ailment. I was hoping God could come to my rescue, but they claim it's God that sent them to run for president. Should I try Jesus?

    • 5 votes
    #25.4 - Tue Jan 3, 2012 3:10 PM EST
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